Legislature(2011 - 2012)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

02/21/2012 03:30 PM Senate COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS


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03:37:25 PM Start
03:37:37 PM SB147
04:15:48 PM Adjourn
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*+ SB 147 WATER AND SEWER TASK FORCE TELECONFERENCED
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               SB 147-WATER AND SEWER TASK FORCE                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:37:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON announced the consideration of SB 147.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:38:06 PM                                                                                                                    
DOROTHY  SHOCKLEY,  staff  for   Senator  Kookesh,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  said the  bill would  create a  nine member  Alaska                                                               
Water and Sewer Task Force  (WSTF) to address the estimated 6,000                                                               
homes in  the state without  "Safe Water and  Sanitation Systems"                                                               
(SWSS). She  said the state had  only met the required  amount of                                                               
matching federal  funds at 19  to 25 percent for  rural projects.                                                               
She  said  most  money  had   gone  into  facility  upgrades  and                                                               
maintenance rather than new projects.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
She  said  WSTF  would  establish an  accurate  number  of  homes                                                               
without  SWSS;  establish  a spectrum  of  need  and  prioritize;                                                               
explore  alternative self-sustaining  SWSS; research  other artic                                                               
nations'  SWSS;  coordinate  funding  in  agencies  that  provide                                                               
services and oversee SWSS  construction projects; investigate and                                                               
access past SWSS projects and  service providers; meet with state                                                               
and federal  agencies and departments on  regulations and funding                                                               
requirements;  and funding  requirements to  streamline projects.                                                               
She said  WSTF would be  a nine member  task force; two  from the                                                               
Senate, one appointed  from the Bush Caucus, two  from the House,                                                               
one  from  the public  with  civil  engineering credentials,  one                                                               
representative   from   an   appropriate  federal   agency,   one                                                               
representative from  the appropriate  state agency and  two rural                                                               
Alaska residents.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:40:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR ELLIS joined the meeting.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:41:23 PM                                                                                                                    
MS SHOCKLEY  said WSTF would  meet in four rural  communities and                                                               
attend  the  Alaska Federation  of  Natives  (AFN) Convention  in                                                               
Anchorage. She said a report  would be submitted by January, 2013                                                               
to the legislature.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MENARD  asked if  potential  WSTF  candidates had  shown                                                               
interest.  She noted  that former  U.S. Senator  Ted Stevens  had                                                               
supported the same cause. She stated her support for WSTF.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS  SHOCKLEY answered  that  communities  and organizations  have                                                               
shown support.  She said engineers  have stated a  willingness to                                                               
help.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MENARD asked  for additional  information on  the fiscal                                                               
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:44:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MS SHOCKLEY  answered that the  fiscal note was $107,000  for the                                                               
five task  force trips  and a part  time administrator.  She said                                                               
the Department  of Environmental  Conservation (DEC)  submitted a                                                               
fiscal note for $6,300 to accompany WSTF.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD asked to clarify  that a part-time person would be                                                               
hired to assist WSTF.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS SHOCKLEY answered yes.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  asked how the  6,000 households  were geographically                                                               
distributed throughout the state.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS SHOCKLEY  answered that the  distribution regions  were, Yukon                                                               
Kuskokwim: 32  percent, Interior:  19 percent, South  Central: 14                                                               
percent, Norton  Sound: 10  percent, Kenai/Prince  William Sound:                                                               
10  percent and  Other: 15  percent. She  said within  the "Other                                                               
Region," Artic  Slope: 9 percent,  Northwest Arctic:  32 percent,                                                               
Southeast: 20 percent, Bristol Bay:  20 percent, Copper River: 13                                                               
percent and Aleutian Pribilof: 6 percent.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:48:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MS  SHOCKLEY  said the  regional  distribution  of First  Service                                                               
Needs  (FSN) for  SWSS service  to homes  not previously  served,                                                               
Yukon Kuskokwim: 69 percent, Norton  Sound: 14 percent, Interior:                                                               
10 percent, Northwest  Arctic: 6 percent. She said  FSN should be                                                               
targeted with a list of projects and maintenance requirements.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  asked what specific health  concerns were associated                                                               
with poor SWSS in rural Alaska.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS SHOCKLEY answered that one issue was respiratory problems.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  commented that hepatitis  was his major  concern due                                                               
to viral transmission.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS  SHOCKLEY   said  a   rural  community   had  a   breakout  of                                                               
Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus Aureus (MRSA).                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:50:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  OLSON said  projects were  getting more  expensive due  to                                                               
diminishing federal funds and inaccessibility.  He asked if there                                                               
were  alternative solutions  for SWSS  projects in  villages that                                                               
need help.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS SHOCKLEY answered that anything  was possible and other arctic                                                               
countries had done it.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:52:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KOOKESH commented  that the U.S. government  was going to                                                               
repair all of the Iraq's SWSS.  He said the priority should be on                                                               
the 6,000 Alaskan  homes and the rest of the  U.S. rural families                                                               
that do  not have proper SWSS.  He said the WSTF  would not solve                                                               
all  of  the problems,  but  reducing  50  percent of  the  homes                                                               
without SWSS  would be a  great accomplishment. He said  having a                                                               
list of priorities  from WSTF for legislatures was  the intent of                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD asked about the WSTF sunset in 2013.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. SHOCKLEY  answered that  a report would  be provided  in 2013                                                               
and  there was  no sunset.  She said  she was  hopeful that  WSTF                                                               
would continue until all homes in Alaska had adequate SWSS.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD  commented on her  concern that WSTF did  not have                                                               
enough time to provide a report to the legislature.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:54:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON commented that the WSTF  report would be done in less                                                               
than a year. He asked what  the WSTF report would contain and how                                                               
the state would be involved.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS SHOCKLEY answered  that the WSTF report  would provide details                                                               
on needs and priorities for SWSS.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:56:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KOOKESH commented  that former  Governor Knowles  stated                                                               
that the  "honey bucket" should be  placed in a museum.  He noted                                                               
that the Village Public Safety  Officers (VPSO) program benefited                                                               
from  implementing a  task  force. He  stated  that the  $107,000                                                               
fiscal note was a minuscule appropriation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD noted that Senator  Kookesh served as an AFN board                                                               
member. She asked what the AFN priorities were regarding SWSS.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KOOKESH answered  that SWSS was a top  priority and noted                                                               
that AFN would back WSTF.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON  asked about  technological  advances  in SWSS  that                                                               
could benefit rural Alaska.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:59:57 PM                                                                                                                    
BILL   GRIFFITH,  Facility   Programs   Manager,  Department   of                                                               
Environmental Conservation, Anchorage, said  less than 25 percent                                                               
of rural households  had SWSS 30 years ago and  75 percent today.                                                               
He said DEC  was now looking at the  most challenging communities                                                               
to serve in a sustainable way.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON asked  how much  of the  rural budget  for SWSS  was                                                               
federally  funded and  what  percentage of  state  funds went  to                                                               
larger municipalities rather than rural communities.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRIFFITH  said 75  percent of the  SWSS was  federally funded                                                               
with  a required  match of  25 percent  from the  state. He  said                                                               
federal funds have  declined over the past seven  years and state                                                               
funds have  declined proportionally.  He said the  state provided                                                               
100  percent grant  match funding  for larger  municipalities and                                                               
annual  appropriations were  independent of  federal funding.  He                                                               
noted that communities  had to provide a match  for state funding                                                               
and the amount varied based on the population of the community.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:03:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  OLSON  said  the U.S.  Department  of  Agriculture  (USDA)                                                               
awarded $23.6 million for SWSS. He  asked if the USDA funds found                                                               
their way to rural SWSS projects.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRIFFITH  answered yes. He  said the  USDA money was  part of                                                               
the federal money that required the state to match.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:04:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. SHOCKLEY commented that it was  not impossible to get SWSS to                                                               
all rural communities.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MARY SCHLOSSER,  representing herself,  Juneau, said  the federal                                                               
government  had spent  over  $2.6 billion  for  Iraq's SWSS.  She                                                               
referenced her home village was still using honey buckets.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON commented  that  additional  generations should  not                                                               
have to continue using honey buckets.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:08:22 PM                                                                                                                    
JOY  HUNINGTON,  representing  herself,   said  she  grew  up  in                                                               
villages that did not have SWSS.  She said Alaska had not kept up                                                               
with  other countries  and voiced  her  concern regarding  health                                                               
issues. She  said she was exposed  to MRSA during her  travels to                                                               
rural Alaska. She  said a lack of SWSS was  leading to rural out-                                                               
migration and advocated WSTF.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:12:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON asked about her MRSA experience.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HUNINGTON answered that MRSA was a deadly staph infection.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[SB 147 was held in committee.]                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                

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